Michigan Vanyi family - Revision history

Robi: Mentioned Michigan in the summary line

2010-10-09T19:08:29Z

Mentioned Michigan in the summary line

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	The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]]. He emmigrated to the USA in 1907 and had three daughters: Irene, Helen and Mary. Some of their descendants have moved to other states since then.		The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]]. He emmigrated to the USA in 1907, settled and Michigan and had three daughters: Irene, Helen and Mary. Some of their descendants have moved to other states since then.

	== Relation with other families ==		== Relation with other families ==

Robi: Extended the family tree and moved it to a separate section

2010-10-09T19:07:12Z

Extended the family tree and moved it to a separate section

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	The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]].		The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]]. He emmigrated to the USA in 1907 and had three daughters: Irene, Helen and Mary. Some of their descendants have moved to other states since then.

			== Relation with other families ==

	{{familytree/start}}		{{familytree/start}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| POR \|POR=Porcsalma Ványi family}}		{{familytree\|boxstyle=background:#dfd; \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| POR \|POR=Porcsalma<br/>Ványi family}}
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	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| SAN \|~\|y\|~\| ZSU \|SAN=Sándor Ványi\|ZSU=Zsuzsanna Juhász}}		{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| SAN \|~\|y\|~\| ZSU \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| GAB \|~\|y\|~\| ZSO \|SAN=Sándor Ványi\|ZSU=Zsuzsanna Juhász\|GAB=Gábor Ványi\|ZSO=Zsófia Juhász}}
	{{familytree \| \|,\|-\|-\|-\|v\|-\|-\|-\|v\|-\|-\|^\|v\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|.\| \|}}		{{familytree \| \|,\|-\|-\|-\|v\|-\|-\|-\|v\|-\|-\|^\|v\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|.\| \| \| \|,\|-\|-\|-\|+\|-\|-\|-\|.\|}}
	{{familytree \| MIH \| \| FER \| \| KAL \| \| JAN \|~\|y\|~\| ROS \| \| KAR \|MIH=Mihály Ványi\|FER=Ferenc Ványi\|KAL=Kálmán Ványi\|JAN=John Vanyi\|ROS=Rose Balla\|KAR=Karolina Ványi}}		{{familytree \| MIH \| \| FER \| \| KAL \| \| JAN \|~\|y\|~\| ROS \| \| KAR \| \| ESZ \| \| PET \| \| PIR \|MIH=Mihály Ványi\|FER=Ferenc Ványi\|KAL=Kálmán Ványi\|JAN='''John Vanyi'''\|ROS='''Rose Balla'''\|KAR=Karolina Ványi\|ESZ=Eszter Ványi\|PET=Péter Ványi\|PIR=Piroska Ványi}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|!\| \| \| \| \|}}		{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|!\| \| \| \| \|}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| MIC \| \| \| \|MIC=Michigan Vanyi family}}		{{familytree\|boxstyle=background:#dfd; \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| MIC \| \| \| \|MIC='''Michigan<br/>Vanyi family'''}}
	{{familytree/end}}		{{familytree/end}}

Robi: Added a small family tree

2010-10-03T21:55:43Z

Added a small family tree

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	The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]].		The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]].

			{{familytree/start}}
			{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| POR \|POR=Porcsalma Ványi family}}
			{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|!\| \|}}
			{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| SAN \|~\|y\|~\| ZSU \|SAN=Sándor Ványi\|ZSU=Zsuzsanna Juhász}}
			{{familytree \| \|,\|-\|-\|-\|v\|-\|-\|-\|v\|-\|-\|^\|v\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|.\| \|}}
			{{familytree \| MIH \| \| FER \| \| KAL \| \| JAN \|~\|y\|~\| ROS \| \| KAR \|MIH=Mihály Ványi\|FER=Ferenc Ványi\|KAL=Kálmán Ványi\|JAN=John Vanyi\|ROS=Rose Balla\|KAR=Karolina Ványi}}
			{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|!\| \| \| \| \|}}
			{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| MIC \| \| \| \|MIC=Michigan Vanyi family}}
			{{familytree/end}}

			At the moment we don't know if John's siblings had descendants in Porcsalma, but we know of at least one living descendant of his cousin, Eszter Ványi.

	== John Vanyi ==		== John Vanyi ==

Robi: Link to the Hungarian page

2010-10-03T17:18:31Z

Link to the Hungarian page

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	* http://www.detroitblog.org/?p=253		* http://www.detroitblog.org/?p=253
	* http://www.old-delray.com/		* http://www.old-delray.com/

			[[hu:Michigani Ványi család]]

Robi: Added site based on the Hungarian version.

2010-10-03T17:08:35Z

Added site based on the Hungarian version.

New page

The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]].

== John Vanyi ==

[[File:John Vanyi.jpg|left|thumb|John Vanyi]]

John Vanyi (born as János Ványi in Porcsalma, Hungary) arrived to the United States on October 3, 1907 on board of the [[RMS Carpathia]]. The digital transcript of the Ellis Island Records shows his name as Yanos Vami, although the original written record is correct, even the accents are in place. According to this document his closest relative was his father Sándor Ványi in Porcsalma.

* [http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?MID=00792402860157648736&LNM=VAMI&PLNM=VAMI&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&RF=9&pID=102096070237& ellisisland.org (Yanos Vami)]

The next piece of information about him is the marriage record: he married to Rose Balla on May 11, 1912. According to the entry, John was 20 years old, and his parents were Alex and Susanna. This is consistent with the birth record in Porcsalma.

* [https://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_96036804%2Fp4&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D familysearch.org]

{{-}}

=== Connection with the Balla family ===
We don't know yet, what kind of relationship John had with the Balla family. His wife was Rose Balla, but we have even less information about her. From the marriage record we know that her parents were John and Anna, and that she had been married before. Thus we don't know for sure if Balla was her maiden name or she kept her previous husband's name.

We know, however, that John Vanyi arrived together with the then 16 years old Elisabeth (Erzsébet) Balla from Porcsalma, and they were travelling to Elisabeth's father, Alexander (Sándor) Balla, 2075 River Drive, Delray, Michigan. Elisabeth's closest relative was her uncle, János Kovács.

Alexander Balla arrived almost two years before John and Elisabeth, on February 6, 1906 from Porcsalma to his cousin Zsigmond Balla resident of Delray, Michigan. Alexander was 40 years old when he arrived.

Zsigmond Balla arrived on May 4, 1904 and moved to Delray. He was 49 years old that time.

* Elisabeth Balla [http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?MID=00792402860157648736&LNM=BALLA&PLNM=BALLA&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=657&pID=102096070269 ellisisland.org]
* Alexander Balla [http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?MID=00792402860157648736&FNM=S&LNM=BALLA&PLNM=BALLA&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&RF=40&pID=102176100526& ellislisland.org]
* Zsigmond Balla [http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?MID=00792402860157648736&FNM=ZS&LNM=BALLA&PLNM=BALLA&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=10&pID=102523060045 ellisisland.org]

== Rose Balla ==
We have not much information on John's wife, Rose. We don't even know her maiden name. In the marriage record we know, her name is written as Rose Balla, her parents were John and Anna.

In connection with John Vanyi we can find some other people called Balla as well.

=== Balla families in Michigan ===

==== Wayne county - 1920 ====

* Louis Balla (1873, Hungary)
+ Elizabeth Balla (1876, Hungary)
** Albert Balla (1904, Hungary)
** Helen Balla (1906)
** Elsie Balla (1908)
** Julia Balla (1910)
** Benjamin Balla (1914)
** Esther Balla (1915)

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?LNM=BALLA&PLNM=BALLA&bSYR=1872&bEYR=1874&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&town_kind=0&ship_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=44&pID=102879011017&MID=00792402860157648736&

==== Zsigmond Balla ====

Zsigmond Balla was recorded in the 1910 census as Zigmond Bolla.

== Delray ==
Today Delray is part of Detroit. Previously it was a township in Wayne county, Michigan. Around the end of the 19th century many Hungarian emigrants settled there.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delray,_Detroit
* http://www.detroitblog.org/?p=253
* http://www.old-delray.com/

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	The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]].		The michigan Vanyi family was founded by [[John Vanyi]] of [[Porcsalma]]. He emmigrated to the USA in 1907 and had three daughters: Irene, Helen and Mary. Some of their descendants have moved to other states since then.

			== Relation with other families ==

	{{familytree/start}}		{{familytree/start}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| POR \|POR=Porcsalma Ványi family}}		{{familytree\|boxstyle=background:#dfd; \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| POR \|POR=Porcsalma<br/>Ványi family}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|!\| \|}}		{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|,\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|^\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|-\|.\|}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| SAN \|~\|y\|~\| ZSU \|SAN=Sándor Ványi\|ZSU=Zsuzsanna Juhász}}		{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| SAN \|~\|y\|~\| ZSU \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| GAB \|~\|y\|~\| ZSO \|SAN=Sándor Ványi\|ZSU=Zsuzsanna Juhász\|GAB=Gábor Ványi\|ZSO=Zsófia Juhász}}
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	{{familytree \| MIH \| \| FER \| \| KAL \| \| JAN \|~\|y\|~\| ROS \| \| KAR \|MIH=Mihály Ványi\|FER=Ferenc Ványi\|KAL=Kálmán Ványi\|JAN=John Vanyi\|ROS=Rose Balla\|KAR=Karolina Ványi}}		{{familytree \| MIH \| \| FER \| \| KAL \| \| JAN \|~\|y\|~\| ROS \| \| KAR \| \| ESZ \| \| PET \| \| PIR \|MIH=Mihály Ványi\|FER=Ferenc Ványi\|KAL=Kálmán Ványi\|JAN='''John Vanyi'''\|ROS='''Rose Balla'''\|KAR=Karolina Ványi\|ESZ=Eszter Ványi\|PET=Péter Ványi\|PIR=Piroska Ványi}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|!\| \| \| \| \|}}		{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \|!\| \| \| \| \|}}
	{{familytree \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| MIC \| \| \| \|MIC=Michigan Vanyi family}}		{{familytree\|boxstyle=background:#dfd; \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| MIC \| \| \| \|MIC='''Michigan<br/>Vanyi family'''}}
	{{familytree/end}}		{{familytree/end}}